sci.energy

Jonathan Kirwan wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> >
> >Since you ask, it's my opinion that the 'AGW lobby' is very largely now a bunch of sloganists
> >who've latched onto a 'cause' that suits their political objectives and that real science has
> >very little to do with what's now happening.
>
> Could be. On the other hand, they might be nothing like that. On the
> third hand, there probably is no monolithic entity like you are
> speaking of. Sounds conspiratorial, to me. You a conspiracy buff?

Absolutely not. I do recognise a bunch of sloganists for what they are though.


> Anyway, I've never met any of them. So don't ask me about the "AGW
> lobby."

You have no opinion ?


> >Indeed there seem to be a distinct move to stifle
> >actual scientific debate wrt AGW and 'shout down' anyone who expresses even a simple doubt.
>
> I think there are folks who do that on various sides of the issue. So
> what? The fact that some folks are like that says nothing about the
> science. Frankly, I'm rather sad for you that you aren't able to
> separate these concepts in your mind.

I see little (none actually) of the 'shouting down' from the sceptics.


> >That's why I'm here and hold the views I now do.
>
> What views?

Highly sceptical of AGW.

That doesn't mean I don't accep that here is some warming currently going on. I imagine it's
natural change. It always was in the past.


> >And as it happen, you, Jonathan are the guy who changed ny opinion from 'slightly sceptical'
> >to 'hugely sceptical' when you pooh-poohed (ridiculed even) my comments about the infleunce of
> >water vapour.
>
> Well, if you feel that I did, then I must have. Though I've no
> recollection about this.

No matter.


> >So, I went away and read it up for myself. In the process I discovered that the
> >IPCC case is based on a crock of outright lies and half-truths.
>
> But that's just your uneducated opinion about it.

No it's educated. I bothered to examine the data for myself !

FUCK RIGHT OFF !

How dare you suggest you know more because you say so ? You're just another bloody blinkered
sloganist.

Graham