alt.energy.homepower

On Jul 22, 11:16 am, z wrote:
> Trygve Lillefosse wrote innews:dj67a3501o9bqur4mtca5p05nqoavhp5vu@ :
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> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:13:00 -0500, z wrote:
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> >>Trygve Lillefosse wrote in
> >>news:0tk4a3dtigetocb566gcig7r653m00kg2v@ :
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> >>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:34:04 -0400, Just A User
> >>> wrote:
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> >>>>Anthony Matonak wrote:
> >>>>> David Williams wrote:
> >>>>>> -> Sign this petition to bring the electric car, which they are
> >>>>>> keeping -> from us, back to the retail market. Who are "they",
> >>>>>> and what makes you think they will be influenced by a petition?
>
> >>>>> The petition page clearly says General Motors specifically and all
> >>auto
> >>>>> makers in general. You have to give up your email address to
> >>>>> "sign"
> >>so
> >>>>> I suspect there are evil spammers behind it who don't care about
> >>>>> the topic.
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> >>>>> The truth to the matter is that both lightweight high energy
> >>>>> density batteries and carbon fiber are still too expensive to make
> >>>>> affordable electric cars. Progress is being made on both fronts
> >>>>> but not
> >>overnight.
>
> >>>>> Anthony
> >>>>Well what was the name of the Chevy / GM electric car from the 90's?
> >>>>They can make them, but the main problems lie in battery capacity
> >>>>and charging rate. The last things I remember reading about the
> >>>>state of both seemed to say that the range per charge is about 200
> >>>>to 250 miles and it took 6 to 8 HOURS to charge. Clearly 200 miles
> >>>>is more than MOST people drive in one day, but for some people who
> >>>>need more range per
> >>day
> >>>> the range per charge and or the charge rate would need to be
> >>improved.
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> >>> After what I know the electric cars that were offered like EV1,
> >>> Rav4, that pickup thing etc. was exelent cars. For MOST people the
> >>> range of 200-250 miles is more than adequate.
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> >>> Quick charge stations would have emerged if the market was there.
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> >>> The main problem was the price. The cars was heavily subsidized.
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> >>> At the moment, you can get a Smart car (two seater) for about USD
> >>> this is with a realy crappy dollar rate offcource, but
> >>> still...
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> >>Screw GM a friend of my brothers just got a job here:
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> >>
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> >>says 200 mile range, 0 to 60 in 4 seconds
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> >>I guess they'll sell for 100k a pop, but still.. sound like a blast to
> >>drive:
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> >> /id/2154425/
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> > Sounds like a bargain, at least in Norway ehere it will be tax-free. A
> > similar car with gasoline would be 300K
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> > But then again, when will it be sold?
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> > The ENV bike was launched over two years ago, but still noboedy can
> > buy it.
>
> I guess they are taking orders now and due to ship in 08.
>
> from the web site:
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> $50,000 reservation payment
> I would like the next available Tesla roadster slot. Current delivery
> estimate is July 2008.
>
> or
> $30,000 reservation payment
> I understand that premium buyers will be placed ahead of me on the list.
> Current delivery estimate is on or before the fourth quarter of 2008.
>
> Just pretending I was going to buy one I went for
> Two-tone premium interior, $1,800
> Seven-speaker premium sound system tuned for Tesla Roadster cockpit,
> $800
> Tesla Motors custom floor mats, $125
> Mobile charging system, $500
>
> in british racing green for total: $102,175
>
> Heck the way the dollar is that is quite a good price for folk in Europe
> no? I guess shipping would be expensive
>
> Get one man!

You should get two and sell one....