alt.energy.renewable

someone should quote them the famous line by H. Simpson:
"In this house we obey the laws of physics!"


On Sep 12, 3:24 pm, "zzbun...@ "
wrote:
> On Sep 11, 12:12 pm, Marvin wrote:
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> > Bill Ghrist wrote:
> > > Tanhks wrote:
> > >> Anthony Matonak wrote:
> > >>> plenty...@ wrote:
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> > >>>> Learn about it here:http://somedamnedsapammerssite
> > >>> It's not. Really.
> > >>> Don't even get us started on water as fuel.
> > >>> Anthony
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> > >> It is in too
> > >>http://www. /
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> > >> Everyone learned the electrolysis during school.
> > >> You put in two electrodes into salted water,
> > >> Pass it with electric current (ac or dc)
> > >> the result is water molecule separated to hydrogen and oxygen.
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> > >> This "Salt water bombarded with radio frequency energy"
> > >> is just a wireless version of electrolysis process.
> > >> It is flammable is the result of hydrogen and oxygen which released from
> > >> this electrolysis process start burning once emerge from the surface
> > >> of the water.
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> > >> I would guess the energy needed to generate the radio frequency is
> > >> bigger than the energy released from the burning of hydrogen and
> > >> oxygen(which released from this wireless electrolysis process).
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> > > This is not a hoax, although it suffers from somewhat misleading
> > > headline writing. If you read the original newspaper article (here is a
> > > more direct link: /pg/07252/ )
> > > you will see that this has been demonstrated independently by a Penn
> > > State chemist. Of course, as stated by the previous poster, this is a
> > > (new) form of electrolysis, so it is not legitimate to call the salt
> > > water itself a "fuel." The hydrogen produced by the process could be
> > > called a fuel to the extent that you can call hydrogen produced by other
> > > means a fuel -- it is a means of taking energy in one form (in this case
> > > electromagnetic) and converting to another form (chemical).
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> > > The article also states:
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> > > "But researching its potential will take time and money, he said. One
> > > immediate question is energy efficiency: The energy the RF generator
> > > uses vs. the energy output from burning hydrogen."
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> > > So they are not trying to pass this off as a "free energy" proposition.
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> > Hard to see any potential, for the same reason other schemes
> > like it fail. Thermodynamics rules.- Hide quoted text -
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> Therodynamics only rules for Carl Sagan and morons who live on
> Pluto,
> nobody ever claimed any different.
> But, on Earth, Microprocessors, Flat Screen TV,
> Lasers, GPS, Turing Machines, and Cruise Missiles rule.
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