sci.energy

BradGuth wrote:
> On Aug 8, 5:47 pm, RichD wrote:
>> On Jul 28, Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>>>> This is another reason why hybrids make more sense. Pure EVs
>>>>>> have too many limitations.
>>>>> If they could recharge in 10 mins, the US power grid would burn out
>>>> What about these?
>>>> /
>>> Shockingly expensive. $75,000 per vehicle just for batteries.
>>> /2006/07/
>> Expensive, who cares? We're talking about the
>> ENVIRONMENT, we can't worry about filty lucre.
>> What are you, a greedy Republican?
>>
>> Let the gov't fund it, won't cost a farthing! That's
>> why we need visionaries like Al Gore, bold men
>> not afraid to take on the special interests, leading
>> by example.
>
> I agree. What else is our government good for, if not to impress us
> with all of it's wizardly expertise and can-do mindset.
> -
>
> The all electric car is technically doable, although having even a
> small onboard ICE for the minimal cruising needs of sustaining 60+ mph
> might represent a good compromise, especially if it's contributing
> zero NOx and minimal CO2 at a hybrid usage of 200 empg per fossil fuel
> usage.
>
> The Electric Car /
> /group/ /browse_frm/thread/2bfee708dee351b9?
> On Sep 22, 5:26 pm, Eeyore
> wrote:
>> BradGuthwrote:
>>> Eeyore wrote:
>>>> BradGuthwrote:
>>>>> Luck has little if anything to do with those regular laws of physics,
>>>>> although the R&D science of getting this 100 empg Hummer or the 200
>>>>> empg GM Volt into the dumbfounded hands of the typical village idiot
>>>>> end-user is going to require some degree of luck.
>>>> The 'regular laws of physics' are going to prevent both of those ever happening.
>>> Arnt you being a silly brown-nosed clown again, and for otherwise
>>> being stuck in that land of naysayism, as representing your one and
>>> only status quo norm.
>> I suggest you find out the frontal area and drag coefficient of a Hummer, plus its
>> weight and rolling resistance.
>>
>> If you had the ability to do the required 'sums' I'm sure you'll find that the power
>> required to propel it under a typical driving regime will never allow '100 mpg' or its
>> equivalent. Ditto for 200 mpg and the Volt.
>
> Double ditto right back at you, as I've been there and done that. Of
> course double-ditto-duh once again, as it's hybrid city or local
> commute empg, and having replaced our mostly N2 atmosphere with that
> robust fluid of h2o2, so that we obtain the most clean energy and best
> amount of bang per gallon of whatever fossil or biofuel, is actually
> accomplished within existing physics and doable technology.
>
> I believe the mass ratio is something like roughly 7:1 up to :1 for
> h2o2/c12h26 (hydrogen peroxide / kerosene or RP-1), a little better on
> certain heavier fuel oils such as diesel and perhaps nearly as
> good enough with plain old gasoline, and a bit worse off with certain
> biofuels, though all dual fuel injected and 100% computer controlled
> (of course), so that your little zero NOx engine for that hybrid
> Hummer or GM Volt can safely mix and match to almost any combination
> of fossil and biofuels as your heart desires.
> /
>
> We're also talking about a fairly small radial turbine or some other
> rotary efficient engine that's driving a direct coupled high speed
> alternator. I suppose you've got those insurmountable problems with
> that as well.
>
> What's your sorry excuse for being such an all-knowing naysay stick in
> the mud?
> - Brad Guth -
>
How about a propane hybrid?