alt.energy.renewable

On Aug 1, 5:18 pm, Anthony Matonak
wrote:
> beal...@ wrote:
> > On Aug 1, 2:49 pm, Anthony Matonak
> > wrote:
> >> beal...@ wrote:
> >>> The funniest part of this whole thread is that wayne, steve,
> >>> beemerwanker, tony, windsun, bill, anthony and vaughn all have
> >>> attacked me for pointing out the obvious which was that steve posted
> >>> nothing more than a shopping list.
> >> Nothing more needed to be posted.
>
> >> Much like saying that a car can be designed to carry 4 passengers.
> >> This is a requirement the design must fulfill but "carry 4 passengers"
> >> is not a design for a car and no one could build a car with only
> >> this information.
>
> > Good point, except that unless the design parameter of four passengers
> > is stipulated the design process stands a very good chance of
> > failing.
>
> The design parameter had been stipulated, just not to the level of
> detail that would please you.
>
> I'm not entirely certain there is a level of detail that would please
> you and it seems pretty clear that no one really cares find out.
>
> > First step is the parameters.
> > For a PV system the parameters include the energy audit.
>
> Audit? Nah. That's not required to design a PV system.
>
> You just need to know what's the total energy required and maximum
> load (and some other minor details). You don't need to know the make,
> model and energy use pattern of every single electrical device.
>
> For instance...
> 2 + 2 + 2 = 6.
> 3 + 3 = 6
> 6 = 6
> If your system needs to provide 6 then that is your design requirement.
> It doesn't matter if the devices are 2, 2 and 2 or 3 and 3 or just 6.

How do you get the final load from? The energy audit.
>
> > A shopping list is not a system design.
>
> Neither is an energy audit. You were demanding "the design" but really
> wanted "the energy audit". The first step is not the final design.

The first step + second step + third step = design
>
> The fact is that what you demanded was already provided but what
> you wanted was not what you demanded. This does not make for good
> communication.

A shopping list was provided. No design what so ever. <40Ah is not a
real number. It is a guess.
>
>
>
> >>> Not one of the above has posted their design parameters.
> >> I never made any claims as to being a solar designer.
> ...
> > In other words you have not the required experience to make informed
> > comments.
>
> I feel qualified to point out the blatantly obvious. I've spent my life
> pointing out those things that simply can't be missed and stating things
> that everyone already knows. It's a gift. :)

Yes, and you pointed out; That you have not the required experience to
make informed comments.

Thank you for being so clear about it.