sci.energy.hydrogen

On Oct 7, 11:49 pm, Don Lancaster wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
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> > Don Lancaster wrote:
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> >>Eeyore wrote:
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> >>>knews4u2c...@ wrote:
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> >>>> /acrobat/
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> >>>" Non-Faradic generation of hydrogen gas is sometimes 80 times higher than the gas from normal electrolysis. Excess > hydrogen has proved difficult to replicate by other laboratories, although we are able to reproduce it regularly. "
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> >>>I wonder why that is.
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> >>Mostly because the gas is really steam.
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> >>http://www. /glib/ a detailed analysis.
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> > Actually, I took a look at one of those 'experiments' on youtube.
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> > The promoters of the idea claim that 'pulsing' the current at high frequency is the key. In the youtube clip, the 'experimenter' was using a cheap clamp type DMM to measure the current.
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> > What do you reckon the chances are that the frequency in use was well beyond the -3dB point of the meter's AC frequency response ?
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> > Graham
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> More fundamentally, the crest factor would make the meter lie like a rug
> on most any pulse waveform.
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> Always GROSSLY UNDERSTATING the result.
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> It is enormously difficult to measure the power of pulsed waveforms.
> It most certainly can NOT be done with any reasonably priced DMM.
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> Depending on the duty cycle, the simultaneous voltage and current A/D
> sampling would have be a mnimum of 100 to 1000 times the frequency of
> the pulses being studied. Digital multiplication, of course, would be a
> must for accurate power calculation.
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> The "research" is thus not even wrong.
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> ONLY the zero frequency term of any pulse waveform contributes
> significantly to electrolysis. Although the highy nonlinear cell may in
> fact create additional zero frequency terms through its highly
> inefficient rectification.
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> http://www. /garbage/ a detailed analysis.
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> --
> Many thanks,
>


It isn't electrolysis.
No electrolyte.
No appreciable current consumed.
NO HEAT AFTER HOURS OF OPERATION.
But you know all that.
Try watching the Meyer video of his explaination.
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It might give you a "clue."