Group: alt.energy.renewable
From: Eeyore
Date: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: diesel economics, was: 50+ mpg



Erdemal wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Erdemal wrote:
> >> Eeyore wrote:
> >>> danny burstein wrote:
> >>>> Hatchback writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Diesels have always been a tough sell to US consumers because of engine
> >>>>> noise, cold weather starting, smoke, odor, vibration, and lower power
> >>>>> but anyone who has driven, even the current version of a VW TDI, knows
> >>>>> there has been major improvement in all these areas. Buyers are
> >>>>> realizing that the fuel savings payback is 8 years for a hybrid and only
> >>>>> 2 for a diesel. Some reports suggest that diesel sales will outpace
> >>>>> hybrid sales by 2012.
> >>>> Are you looking at just the gallons used or are you taking
> >>>> the different prices of diesel vs. gasoline into account?
> >>>>
> >>>> Generally speaking (with lots and lots of variation) diesel
> >>>> fuel is 10 to 15 percent more expensive than gasoline.
> >>> Not in Europe. Diesel and gasoline are about the same price.
> >> Not in your Europe, in my Europe Gasoline is €/l and diesel
> >> is €/l (LPG is even cheaper ?? €/l).
> >
> > In the UK diesel is a couple of pence more expensive than petrol (gasoline).
> > Apparently this is because the UK has insufficient refining capacity dedicated
> > to diesel and a lot of it has to be imported.
>
> AFAIK the difference is only due to different 'accise tax' amount ???

That would be 'excise duty'.

fuel duty (as of 1 October 2007) in the United Kingdom is:

pence per litre for ultra-low sulphur unleaded petrol/diesel
pence per litre for conventional unleaded petrol
pence per litre for conventional diesel
pence per litre for bio-diesel and bio ethanol - low tax to encourage consumer
conversion
pence per kg for gas other than natural gas (LPG)
pence per kg for natural gas used as road fuel
pence per litre for rebated gas oil (red diesel)
pence per litre for rebated fuel oil


Graham